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Oct 12 @ 8:14 AM ET
The higher goals against around the leagues might be caused also by goalies still adjusting to the smaller chest protectors and other changes to their equipment in the offseason.
I'm not saying Elliott and Pickard didn't miss makeable saves and also get hung out to dry by very shoddy team defense.
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
Oct 12 @ 8:19 AM ET
The higher goals against around the leagues might be caused also by goalies still adjusting to the smaller chest protectors and other changes to their equipment in the offseason.
I'm not saying Elliott and Pickard didn't miss makeable saves and also get hung out to dry by very shoddy team defense. - dragonoffrost
Great job, Bill! Thanks. While I am usually critical game-to-game, I like to wait for a 8-10 game stretch to see where we stand (record, standings, PK, PP, etc.). So far, I don't see any improvement over our issues from last season. This has been a tough stretch of games to open the season, but we don't seem to be understanding team defense and still can't clear pucks. It could all shake out after a couple of weeks.
Part of the passiveness on PK is related to these failed clears. Guys out there for extended shifts due to failed clears are going to be gassed.
Dave Brown, to me, is the best enforcer in team history. Schultz may have more PIM or be more of a "face" of the team, but he wasn't as big, strong, tough as Brown. Schultz was more of a sideshow who enjoyed being the villain. Brown was just a guy who went about his business and simply took care of things when they needed taking care of. The only one who could give Brown a run would be Behn Wilson, but I never got to see him play live. Someone once asked Brown what his job was, and he answered, "When something's broken, I fix it."
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
Oct 12 @ 9:04 AM ET
Dave Brown, to me, is the best enforcer in team history. Schultz may have more PIM or be more of a "face" of the team, but he wasn't as big, strong, tough as Brown. Schultz was more of a sideshow who enjoyed being the villain. Brown was just a guy who went about his business and simply took care of things when they needed taking care of. The only one who could give Brown a run would be Behn Wilson, but I never got to see him play live. Someone once asked Brown what his job was, and he answered, "When something's broken, I fix it." - jmatchett383
The higher goals against around the leagues might be caused also by goalies still adjusting to the smaller chest protectors and other changes to their equipment in the offseason.
I'm not saying Elliott and Pickard didn't miss makeable saves and also get hung out to dry by very shoddy team defense. - dragonoffrost
Could be that, but this also tends to happen in October as teams aren't sorted out defensively yet. I find it funny that we won 8 2 last year vs wash and most of us understood that it was a product of us playing a tired team who wasn't totally in synch early on. We lose this year 8 2 in the opener and the sky is falling haha.
I'll admit. I was not happy at all. Haha.
I try to remind myself, until we get to December or Jan teams aren't really settled into what they're going to be.
Dave Brown, to me, is the best enforcer in team history. Schultz may have more PIM or be more of a "face" of the team, but he wasn't as big, strong, tough as Brown. Schultz was more of a sideshow who enjoyed being the villain. Brown was just a guy who went about his business and simply took care of things when they needed taking care of. The only one who could give Brown a run would be Behn Wilson, but I never got to see him play live. Someone once asked Brown what his job was, and he answered, "When something's broken, I fix it." - jmatchett383
I'd pretty much agree with that, but Wilson would be right up there. Also don't discount Holmgren. He could fight as well as Brown and was a much better player too. He also is personally responsible for Linseman surviving his first stint with the Flyers.
It's hard to compare Schultz to guys like Brown and Wilson, the fights were much dirtier in the mid 70s as hair pulling and head butting were pretty common. Schultz was a flat out animal on the ice and he absolutely intimidated a lot of opposing players and set the tone for the whole Bullies image. He was a very important player on those Cup teams and he was also, when he put his mind to it, a pretty solid player as well.
Dave Brown, to me, is the best enforcer in team history. Schultz may have more PIM or be more of a "face" of the team, but he wasn't as big, strong, tough as Brown. Schultz was more of a sideshow who enjoyed being the villain. Brown was just a guy who went about his business and simply took care of things when they needed taking care of. The only one who could give Brown a run would be Behn Wilson, but I never got to see him play live. Someone once asked Brown what his job was, and he answered, "When something's broken, I fix it." - jmatchett383
Mel Bridgman wasn't an enforcer but pound for pound he was probably tougher than Schultz. Bridgman could fight, Schultz was just a brawler.
It seems that Lappy at least half gets it, at least they are being much more aggressive in pressuring the opponent as they try to bring the puck up and into the zone. However, once they get set up, they are reverting back to their soft, collapsing and generally ineffective coverage. I don't understand why it's so hard for them to see that this doesn't work and start playing a more aggressive kill in the zone. Pressure the point men, pressure the man with the puck. If you get beat, you get beat, but at least you force them to make a good play under pressure to do so.
In every era where the Flyers PK was successful, this was how they did it.
I'd pretty much agree with that, but Wilson would be right up there. Also don't discount Holmgren. He could fight as well as Brown and was a much better player too. He also is personally responsible for Linseman surviving his first stint with the Flyers.
It's hard to compare Schultz to guys like Brown and Wilson, the fights were much dirtier in the mid 70s as hair pulling and head butting were pretty common. Schultz was a flat out animal on the ice and he absolutely intimidated a lot of opposing players and set the tone for the whole Bullies image. He was a very important player on those Cup teams and he was also, when he put his mind to it, a pretty solid player as well. - BiggE
also best enforcer doesn't have to be best fighter.
Glenn cochrane, while a great fighter-not as good as brown, was also a great enforcer. Just as good as brown imo.
Same with Berube.
Wilson is very underrated to me. he was legit nuts.
Mel Bridgman wasn't an enforcer but pound for pound he was probably tougher than Schultz. Bridgman could fight, Schultz was just a brawler. - DraftandDestroy
You're correct. The coaches are telling the players to sit back, take it easy and give the opposition plenty of space. - MJL
It's either that, or the players aren't listening/doing what they're told. I find it hard to believe that every set of PKers they've used in the past 3 years are intentionally not doing what they're told.
I'd pretty much agree with that, but Wilson would be right up there. Also don't discount Holmgren. He could fight as well as Brown and was a much better player too. He also is personally responsible for Linseman surviving his first stint with the Flyers.
It's hard to compare Schultz to guys like Brown and Wilson, the fights were much dirtier in the mid 70s as hair pulling and head butting were pretty common. Schultz was a flat out animal on the ice and he absolutely intimidated a lot of opposing players and set the tone for the whole Bullies image. He was a very important player on those Cup teams and he was also, when he put his mind to it, a pretty solid player as well. - BiggE
I was watching some old fights and came across some Bobby Orr videos. God damn, it wasn't fair what he could do. It was like every other player on the ice was moving in slow motion.
